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Ace
30-01-09, 02:31 PM
Ok people, so do you want to learn C++ or need a new Compiler. Here is what you need.


Basic C experience, lots of time, a computer with 5 GBs, a Library card, and some cash if you want.

OK for the compiler, I recommend Microsoft Visual studios C++ 2008 express.
You can get it here: http://www.microsoft.com/express/vc/ . (http://www.microsoft.com/express/vc/)

Its a simple fast download. It can take up to 30 minutes for install dwpending on your system, on alienware laptops, it takes about 15 minutes max.

Next, here is some books I recommend, they get straight to the point and teach the basics and more. DO NOT GET C++ For DUMMIES. It is SHIT!!

Books:
*C++ Primer plus 5th edition, I really recommend this one, its a $50 book but almost all library's have it because it is so GOOD! It will take about 3 weeks at moderate reading, this is everything you need, from symbols, librarys, variables and MORE!

If you run into problems, here is a good book, Problem solving with C++ : the object of programming , its not to old but it does the job. Also if you need help, post your scripts here and I or someone else will help you!

Now you got the basics by this point, this is when you start using Visual studio.

Remember, you dont need a compiler to write a script, you can use notepad, Compilers just make a exe file.


If you need help, add me on MSN, [email protected]


I will start making some easy scripts for some of you to learn off. Just so you get some experience.

Crux
31-01-09, 02:06 AM
Basic C experience, lots of time, a computer with 5 GBs, a Library card, and some cash if you want.
You don't need C exp. at all. You don't even need any programming exp. although php helps a a hella lot.
tip: try to write the code as small as you can instead of a lot of unessential code, a lot of tutorials out there don't teach you this but its best to do this as soon as you start learning.
And the best book out there IMO is ThinkCpp.
- explains ALOT
- explains how to debug and why its useful (Makes you do this throughout the tut since it's very crucial)
- Doesn't step to far ahead like from helloWorld then start doing variables straight away :)

Ace
31-01-09, 10:04 AM
Dude, you have no idea. You should learn regular C, it helps you understand variables and library's a lot better. Also Primer Plus is a hella lot better. Keep your criticism to your self.

Crux
31-01-09, 05:38 PM
No... Don't learn C first... It will only confuse you.. more and you will mainly forget a lot. Learn basic C++ first (Which includes all of the topics classes, variables etc.) THEN learn basic C.
if you start learning C first then you will be writing stuff like uint32_t and being like 'WTF MEZ L333TZZ CODEZ DOESNTZ COMPILZ HELLPZ'
Now, may I pose a question... How long have you been doing C++ for? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about nor should make a thread claiming that your the l33tness at C++ and everyone should learn the harder way and end up quiting C++ within a week since C confused you to much..

Ace
01-02-09, 08:18 PM
OK ok, whatever you say, just went to schooling for this so I dont know a Damn thing.

WoW-Plague
07-02-09, 11:03 PM
OK ok, whatever you say, just went to schooling for this so I dont know a Damn thing.

Well just because you went to school to learn programming does not mean everything you were taught there is and only is correct. I can tell you that starting C before C++ will confuse most beginners and it will take them longer to learn. This is why most of the C programmers take longer to progress then C++ programmers. Because they spend a lot of time learning C then as soon as they jump into C++ it is a brand new Syntax. If you would like to read a guide I have created here is the link. http://forum.codecall.net/tutorials/12611-detailed-guide-c-understanding-basics.html

Ace
08-02-09, 08:27 PM
Dude I dont care what you think, If you do some research, C++ is a advanced version of C, okay, C used so many things that you use in C++. SO stay off my post, I will teach how I want.

Coltrain7
15-04-09, 03:44 AM
Lol 3 weeks to learn holy shit!

xoeox
04-02-10, 07:59 AM
I shouldnt matter which language they start with as the idea of learning to program is mostly in how to think and problem solve like a programer, then syntax becomes important when merging into a language regardless of which one it is. They will all have differant syntax, but the same foundation for building the program. Learn how to think like a programer, then use that knowledge and convert it to the proper syntax for that language. Otherwise they wont learn anything more than what they saw on paper does something, but not as to how or why it does.